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Confirmed: No Android 1.6 For Rogers HTC Dream/Magic

Get ready for a slap in the face Rogers customers.

For months we have all been wondering when Rogers/Google/HTC will release Android 1.6 for current Dream/Magic owners. Well, according to an article on the HTC website, Rogers Dream/Magic owners will not be officially getting the 1.6 update:

HTC is not currently planning any Android 1.6 upgrades for Rogers Dream or Magic. Android 1.6 was only made available for “Google”-branded devices such as the G1. It is not available for HTC-branded products such as the Dream or Magic, which use Android 1.5. We believe that Android 1.5 is a stable and reliable software platform that delivers a terrific user experience.

That last sentence is just a silly thing to say and is a poor excuse.

At this time, Rogers Dream/Magic customers will have to root their devices in order to receive the 1.6 update.

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  • Manu

    Rogers is officially retarded. Please stay away from these scam artists. I'll be jumping to another carrier, even if I have to pay to do so.

  • rod

    No, rogers customers have another option: return their phones and cancel their contracts. That's what I am going to do. The rogers rep I talked to last week said that he would allow me to do just that.

    I am not at all surprised that rogers is too cheap to pay htc for updates, they have done the same for all of their phones.

    That is the last phone I ever buy from rogers. The next phone I am getting will be unlocked (I have my eye on the htc passion, which is going to be sold directly from google, who will indeed keep updating the phone firmware, unlike rogers, I just hope they offer models that support 3g frequencies in Canada).

  • thesniperz

    i knew it all along… stupid Rogers..

    that's why i rooted my phone about 3-4 months ago and now happily using Android 2.0 features on my Magic.. including Google Navigation too!!!

    if you can't return your phone, root it! it's easy as long as you read/follow the instructions properly.

  • Spriggers

    Hmmmm. Which rom is that exactly? I'm waiting for 2.0 with Sense UI. I'm on 1.6 right now with Sense UI and it's awesome.

  • Spriggers

    Hmmmm. Which rom is that exactly? I'm waiting for 2.0 with Sense UI. I'm on 1.6 right now with Sense UI and it's awesome.

  • dbag420

    WHICH rooting instructions do I follow? There seem to be quite a few different versions out there and I'm a bit hesitant…but i am PISSED that rogers fucked us over. Could you point me in the right direction so I can get the most out of my phone? Thanks.

  • Dave

    What does this mean for 2.0? I assume it will be a no-go as well.

    Also, I think a little blame for this will need to be put on Google's head as well. They currently have no control over how Android is being used on phones and carriers so there is no way to force them to keep the phones as current as possible. Are the other Canadian carriers also just selling non-Google Android phones? Are they under any contract to keep the phones up to date?

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  • so sad

    I wonder if the Rogers sales reps are passing along this news item to the poor suckers buying these phones in some mall as I type this. I can imagine the sales pitch: “Hey, this HTC Magic with Android is awesome… we now officially do not support OS upgrades on it though… you won't be able to use the latest and best apps coming out as we speak… but its stable, and delivers a terrific user experience! Can I sign you up?”

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  • rod

    The lack of support for Rogers Android phones has made it all the way to
    the world's top tech blog, slashdot.org (check out the second link).

    http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/09/12/19/19325

    Rogers lack of support and ridiculous 3 year contracts have made Canada
    the laughing stock of the wireless world. I am really hoping Wind
    Mobile will save us (no contracts and much better pricing):

  • z_k

    Rogers could not have f*cked up their Android release any more if they tried. This alone would be enough for me to ensure I'd never sign another contract with them again. Add on clueless support, ridiculous pricing, and annoying “branding” on my phone… I'm never going to touch anything with a Rogers logo again.

  • chrisyak

    Rogers, Rogers, Rogers…….

    Well the Revolution did not last long, further proof that all you want is our money and really don't care about your customers…….

    I am embarrassed that i once again have been bent over a barrel by Rogers….

    I guess Rogers really does not care to catch on the android wave and support their products they would just rather sell us new phones. Well all this negative publicity in regards to android will cause new users to look elsewhere due to the lack of support and spend their money with another company. I have no desire to support Rogers when they will not even stand by their own products.

    They wonder why people are look for alternatives to the big 3 ,well this is just one of many reasons why.

    This experience has left me a much more educated buyer and i will not spend my hard earned money with robbers anymore.

    1.6 should not even be a question they should be working on getting 2.0…..wow too much……

    HTC, HTC, HTC

    Well all the blame cannot go to Rogers either cause at the end of the day this is a HTC phone and is obvious they just want to sell handsets but by allowing carriers to not provide updates for the phones they certainly are hurting their image and will cause android users to look at others brands as well.

    Google, Google, Google

    Great OS but…….You need to learn a thing or two from the iphone and that you need to rollout these updates across the board on these phones just not ones you brand and make. Failing to do so is a major mistake and will cost you in the long run. While android may be taking off and getting a larger market share how do you think the sales are going to be in a few years when android owners are tired of being handcuffed from the carriers and manufactures of your phones by poor support….I love my android phone but i tell you a unlocked iphone is looking allot more attractive to me specially in the long run….

    In the mean time putting pressure on Rogers and all the negative press they are going to receive on this and loss of revenue may force their hands to get them off their cheap lazy butts and do something about this issue…

    All i have to say is thank god my contract is up this summer ….nexus, wind, dave, public will all get a chance to get my money since Rogers has proven all they care about is your money not customer satisfaction.

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  • Ants

    Well this is rather silly, but I am still going to enjoy my Dream and it's pretty good plan for 3 years until I'm sure the market in canada for a new phone will be better.

  • Ja

    Can you supply an idiots guide to rooting rogers dream?

  • samuelmaskell

    big surprise..
    friggen rogers
    I'm glad I rooted my phone almost as soon as I got it
    now I just wish I could get out of my contract
    there's absolutely no excuse for this really

  • Josh

    RAGE.

    Rogers has now crossed from “kind of dodgy” to being “a bunch of depraved sodomites” in my book. The /reason/ I bought the damned thing was for the upgrades.

    Monkeyfighters.

  • Larry

    My family has 5 phones on Rogers, and their reps misled me a year ago when I added a phone – eveyone got extended 3 years. Their glacial and I can't stand it anymore. I'm gradually taking them all off Rogers, and when they go so will everything else – home phone, cable, internet. Their head is so far up the iPhone's &ss that they're oblivious to everyting else.

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  • Spriggers

    This is what I did last week for a Rogers Magic and it worked perfectly. Do at your own risk though. Read the instructions below the video:

    http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/29/how-to-root-th

    This worked on a Rogers Magic 32a on 1.5

  • Ian R

    this seems like it's the last straw for me with regards to Rogers. I am happy that I only have one year left on my voice term. I have quite a bit longer on my data term but I'm perfectly willing to pay the $100 cancellation fee to be rid of Rogers. I could just sell my Dream to pay the fee anyway.

    In a years time I'm quite confident that WIND and Dave Mobile will be better established as I am also sure that Bell and Telus will have some excellent deals to go with their new HSPA network.

    I've been with Rogers for quite a while now because I've had no real alternative. Bell and Telus are finally growing up and new carriers are finally starting to emerge. So, Dear Rogers: Your greed, iconoclasm, and stagnation are the reasons I am leaving you! Goodbye!

  • Dave

    You can post reviews of the Magic on the rogers website, but its a 72 hour “approval” process. I just sent one in warning about the lack of support but I expect it to be censored brutally.

    Just going to root my phone over the xmas break. Hopefully that coming Google Nexus One thing will be more like the iphone in regards to Google retaining control of the firmware rather than leaving it up to the carriers/manufacturers.

  • thesniperz

    to ROOT: http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/29/how-to-root-th
    the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?… (no Sense UI though but working great so far… install the Droid0.7, there has been some problems with the latest one droid07E)

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  • ken

    I will dump my Dream (HTC) & Rogers. Still holding on to my Blackberry with Telus.

  • ja

    will these work for rogers though? i understand they are for tmobile

  • cyberguerilla

    Everyone, CHILL OUT

    Read the words on the HTC Web site again. It just mentions version 1.6.

    Looking from the lens of Rogers now, why should they even waste their time on Donut? Or even Eclair? If there is a firmware upgrade they should be working on, it should be working on FLAN.

    Nothing in this announcement precludes any work on a Eclair or Flan firmware update. If Telus making a big announcement about Moto Milestone together with a firm commitment on firmware updates, do you think they will dare not to follow suit?

  • onlyafterdark

    Read this:

    http://androidforums.com/rogers/10647-rogers-dr

    There is Mary from Rogers commenting later on. We will get nothing from HTC or Rogers; no firmware updates, no Sense UI.

  • http://twitter.com/RogersMary Mary @ Rogers

    Hi All – This is Mary with Rogers. I just wanted to clarify that HTC must customize the operating system to fully integrate with all aspects of Rogers platforms and services in order for the software to be approved by Rogers. If these customizations are not done, certain features/capabilities of the device may not work properly on the Rogers network. This will result in a poor user experience.

    We have asked for an upgrade from HTC and while they have indicated that they had not planned to upgrade the Rogers Dream or Magic to 1.6., they agreed to investigate all options and get back to us.

    When I have more to share, I will.
    Thanks,
    Mary

  • thesniperz

    root your phones and wait for the Google Nexus One phone.
    it will definitely be supported much better and updates come quicker.. no need to wait for ROBBERS..

    :D

  • http://twitter.com/RogersMary Mary @ Rogers

    Hi Dave — Just fyi. We don't censor posts on reviews. We'll either accept or reject them based on the user guidelines. Thanks!

  • loconet

    And potentially void your warranty.

  • Anonymous Coward

    Hi Mary,

    I have been running Cyanogen 1.6 for a long time now and there is absolutely no incompatibility/issue with whatsoever service you offer. What you are serving here is a poor excuse for your laziness and fucking with us for way too long, considering we all pay the big bucks (it costs me over 100$ each month and I know many who have higher bills than me).

    The Dream came crippled with no soft keyboard support. The build you sell us is less stable than what the community serves. These builds have more features and it's the only way I can get bug fixes and support for 1.6 features.

    I have absolutely no faith in Rogers. All your marketing dept does is give us excuses or misleading answers to make us wait like idiots.

    For a frickin time JUST ACT like a serious company.

    ~Frustrated client

  • Anonymous Coward

    And also, all the “branding” you put on the Android is a bunch of links that don't natively work in Android. Spare yourself some time and do some work on important features.

  • cyberguerilla

    Who gives a rat's a$$ about the “warranty” when they have swapped the SIM card to use in Nexus One, or if they have jumped ship. Bug fixes on v1.5 when Android v5.0 are out two years from now? Come on.

    Also, you bet when there's a way to root, there's a way to unroot?

  • thesniperz

    from what i've heard people are still able to get replacements even if they have rooted and bricked their phones..
    and you'll only brick your phone if you're not careful and folllow the instructions properly..

  • thesniperz

    yes, I have a Rogers HTC Magic on the Fido network..
    I'm running 2.0 right now and using the GPS Nav.. :D

  • HeraclesCA

    For all those rooting experts out there: is rooting reversible? My handset is still under warranty. Will I be able to revert it back to the Rogers version of the OS if I need to return it to the company for some reason?

  • Sarah

    I feel the exact same way, yes I knew all about Rogers so called service though I fell in love with the LG Eve which is running 1.5 os I was aware of the ability to upgrade/root the phone though I'm not sure how to do so. Also I was warned by Rogers that if I ever have a problem with the phone they will not cover or repair it because the warranty will be void considering I messed with the firmware, still can you please explain how you upgraded to a 2.0 os
    Thanks in advance.

  • Mr. Cranky

    By “certain features/capabilities” do you mean the rogers branded stuff like the background, the Rogers shop, Rogers Ringtones and all that? If so, you're not actually holding out for anything people use but for a way for Rogers to take more of the users' money. Last time I checked I own my own phone and I am allowed to do whatever I want with it. And just like I should be able to install a new operating system on my comptuer I should be allowed to install a new operating system on MY phone. By blocking this upgrade Rogers are actually preventing me from using my device properly. That is probably grounds for a contract dismissal and possibly even a class-action lawsuit. Not a smart move.

  • Singh

    Does anyone know why google maps isn't available on the market anymore? Has this to do with the fact that we are running on 1.5?

  • http://www.linuxottawa.ca/ Kristen

    As others have said, a solution to the lack of updates from Rogers is to root the phone and install a customer ROM. If you are uncomfortable trying to do this yourself, I am offering the service to root + flash the new ROM for a small fee. I have been running Cyanogenmod since the Dream was released here without any issues, you get all the updated goodness.

  • curious

    Why does Google not offer the official ROMs (1.6, 2.0 etc )for download as they release them, independent of the carrier or manufacturers? I have not heard any discussion on that front and I have been reading many forums on this subject.

  • Singh

    Does anyone know why google maps isn't available on the market anymore? Has this to do with the fact that we are running on 1.5?

  • http://www.linuxottawa.ca/ Kristen

    As others have said, a solution to the lack of updates from Rogers is to root the phone and install a customer ROM. If you are uncomfortable trying to do this yourself, I am offering the service to root + flash the new ROM for a small fee. I have been running Cyanogenmod since the Dream was released here without any issues, you get all the updated goodness.

  • http://www.linuxottawa.ca/ Kristen

    Sorry, it didn't show the email: if you are interested, send me an email at tech@linuxottawa.ca

  • curious

    Why does Google not offer the official ROMs (1.6, 2.0 etc )for download as they release them, independent of the carrier or manufacturers? I have not heard any discussion on that front and I have been reading many forums on this subject.

  • samson34

    hey guys!

    if anyone is interested in a SAFE was to upgrade to Android 1.6 for their Rogers HTC Dream, check out this link

    http://upgrade.android.32teeth.org/

    it is a step by step process. written for those of us who are NON TECH and want to upgrade our phone!

    i did mine last night following the steps to the letter and it was super easy and done in less than 30 minutes!

  • zach1221

    Rogers has announced that they will be releasing a new ROM in mid 2010 with the newest android version for the magic.

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  • GC

    Hi,

    I want to buy the Htc dream, could anyone tell me the difference between android 1.5 and 1.6 or older?

    Thanks.

  • GC

    Hi,

    I want to buy the Htc dream, could anyone tell me the difference between android 1.5 and 1.6 or older?

    Thanks.

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